Bad ideas that never die: a Parliament of special interests

The Times is running two letters under the heading, Should the Upper House be a Senate? (£). The first letter calls for a federal senate with equal representation for each nation of the UK. (Quite why the smaller nations should be disproportionately powerful, I do not know.)  The second calls for a chamber of representatives from “leading professional and other expert bodies such as the Law Society, the British Medical Association, the Institute of Chartered Accountants, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors, and so on.”

In either case, the call is for representatives with special interests, whether regional or professional. This is an old and wrong-headed idea.

Mises’ 1927 book Liberalism: The Classical Tradition deals with this in chapter 4, section 3.  (Ah – recess reading!)  Amongst other things, he writes:

A parliament composed of the supporters of the antiliberal parties of special interests is not capable of carrying on its business and must, in the long run, disappoint everyone. This is what people mean today and have meant for many years now when they speak of the crisis of parliamentarism.

As the solution for this crisis, some demand the abolition of democracy and the parliamentary system and the institution of a dictatorship. We do not propose to discuss once again the objections to dictatorship. This we have already done in sufficient detail.

A second suggestion is directed toward remedying the alleged deficiencies of a general assembly composed of members elected directly by all the citizens, by either supplementing or replacing it altogether with a diet composed of delegates chosen by autonomous corporative bodies or guilds formed by the different branches of trade, industry, and the professions. The members of a general popular assembly, it is said, lack the requisite objectivity and the knowledge of economic affairs. What is needed is not so much a general policy as an economic policy. The representatives of industrial and professional guilds would be able to come to an agreement on questions whose solution either eludes entirely the delegates of constituencies formed on a merely geographical basis or becomes apparent to them only after long delay.

In regard to an assembly composed of delegates representing different occupational associations, the crucial question about which one must be clear is how a vote is to be taken, or, if each member is to have one vote, how many representatives are to be granted to each guild. This is a problem that must be resolved before the diet convenes; but once this question is settled, one can spare oneself the trouble of calling the assembly into session, for the outcome of the voting is thereby already determined. To be sure, it is quite another question whether the distribution of power among the guilds, once established, can be maintained. It will always be–let us not cherish any delusions on this score–unacceptable to the majority of the people. In order to create a parliament acceptable to the majority, there is no need of an assembly divided along occupational lines. Everything will depend on whether the discontent aroused by the policies adopted by the deputies of the guilds is great enough to lead to the violent overthrow of the whole system. In contrast to the democratic system, this one offers no guarantee that a change in policy desired by the overwhelming majority of the population will take place. In saying this, we have said everything that needs to be said against the idea of an assembly constituted on the basis of occupational divisions. For the liberal, any system which does not exclude every violent interruption of peaceful development is, from the very outset, out of the question.

If there was a “crisis of parliamentarism” in 1927, how much more so today.  Our slow abandonment of the classical British doctrine of liberty has indeed created a Parliament which disappoints everyone.  Moreover, we have mostly abandoned policy making by elected representatives in favour of rubber-stamping the work of officials, whether national or international.

What is required is a Parliament which works in the general interest, not one through which particular groups try to advantage themselves by force of law. That means a Parliament committed to the ideals of liberty under the law, which in turn implies a public persuaded that we cannot all live at everyone else’s expense.

However we proceed, special interests will continue to have their opportunities to lobby: they do not need to be elected. It would be crass to make this old error.

Three political economies debated in Parliament

Last week, I chaired what turned out to be a passionate, courageous and grounded debate between three intellectuals from each point of the political triangle: conservative, classical liberal and social democrat.

Dr Mark Pennington set out the inescapable reality of imperfect knowledge and incomplete rationality in human actors in defence of markets. Richard Murphy argued for a “cappucino” of state and market, flat rejecting neoliberalism. Jesse Norman MP critiqued the flaws in the theories of neo classical economics and completely disagreed with Richard. You can find the video here:

The Future of Political Economy from Steve Baker on Vimeo.

It was a huge pleasure to introduce a fascinating, pugnacious set of presentations and to chair a lively Q&A. I know everyone present appreciated such a rigourous, frank and challenging yet good-natured conversation.

In the end, I was encouraged that all speakers were united in their desire to promote human flourishing. We may disagree about ways and means, but there seems to be no disagreement that the objective is a prosperous and fulfilling society. 

I am extremely grateful to the speakers for taking part.

Biographies

Dr Mark Pennington is the author of Robust Political Economy: Classical Liberalism and the Future of Public Policy. He is Reader in Public Policy and Politial Economy at Queen Mary University London and a winner of the Atlas Institute for Economic Research prize for “contributions to the understanding of spontaneous order”. His speciality is the implications of Hayekian and public choice concepts for the evaluation of social-economic systems.

Richard Murphy is presently completing The Courageous State: Rethinking economics and the role of government for publication later this year. Richard specialises in tax and he is Director of Tax Research LLP. He is the principal author of books including “Tax us if you can”.

Richard has worked for the TUC and others on the tax gap in the UK. He has written extensively on tackling the UK’s deficit without imposing cuts on the most vulnerable in society.

Jesse Norman is Conservative MP for Hereford and South Herefordshire and author of The Big Society – the anatomy of the new politics. Educated at Eton and Merton College, Oxford, Jesse left his job with Barclays in the City in 1997 to teach at University College London.

Jesse was selected to stand for Parliament at an open primary in 2006.

Robust Political Economy and Realistic Idealism « Pileus

Via Robust Political Economy and Realistic Idealism « Pileus:

What criterion should we use to evaluate political theories and the institutions they advocate? In my book Robust Political Economy, I argue that it is the criterion of ‘robustness’. Institutions that meet this criterion are those best placed to cope with fundamental constraints that arise from the human condition. The most important constraints are those of limited rationality (the Hayekian ‘knowledge problem’) and the recognition that human beings respond, at least to a limited degree, to incentives. Judged against these constraints all human institutions are likely to ‘fail’, but some institutions may be better placed than others to withstand the stresses and strains wrought by the human condition.

I’m enjoying Mark Pennington’s superb book at the moment and I’ll blog about it more fully shortly.

Thought for the day – liberalism, as classically understood

The program of liberalism, therefore, if condensed into a single word, would have to read: property, that is, private ownership of the means of production… All the other demands of liberalism result from his fundamental demand.

Via the Ludwig von Mises Institute.

Over lunch today, I very much enjoyed setting out the Austrian School programme of classical liberalism advanced by Mises to the Freedom Association. These days, it would be known as Conservatism, but there we are.

Sooner or later, politics will have to reorientate towards either freedom or state control. I believe the journey began with this election, but much hinges on the Liberal Democrats and whether they are in fact believers in liberty…

Mark Prisk MP, Hayek and Mises

Via Business Minister Mark Prisk wants to strip away the red tape – Telegraph:

Friedrich von Hayek is a controversial choice as a pin-up. But a signed pamphlet that the Austrian-born economist wrote in 1980 entitled “Full employment at any price” is proudly framed on Business Minister Mark Prisk’s wall. In placing it there, the Conservative MP for Hertford and Stortford is following in a line of leading Tories to place their faith in one of the 20th century’s most prominent economic theorists.

Great news, but let’s hope my colleagues are reading Hayek’s much-neglected Prices and Production, which explains the structure of capital and which allows a better grasp of real patterns of economic activity.

Hayek is useful, but I find his work takes for granted Mises, who wrote “Society is cooperation; it is community in action.” Consequently, Hayek can be misunderstood. Mises’ work has as a primary theme “social cooperation”: his theories explain the realities of acting individuals working together to improve their condition, that is, the cooperative relationships which constitute civilized society.

Meanwhile, I am beginning Mises’ Omnipotent Government – The Rise of the Total State and Total War (1944), which can be read online here. Read more

Bastiat – The State

This post originally appeared at The Cobden Centre.

In the course of things, I had cause to quote Bastiat, a French classical liberal theorist, political economist, and member of the French assembly: “The state is the great fiction by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else.” This prompted me to dig out the original essay.

As the UK’s national debt doubles and after a period within which QE was used, creating space in the market for that debt, one wonders how much longer we can go on like this before we are forced to rediscover the truths in this classic work.

I wish that someone would offer a prize, not of five hundred francs, but of a million, with crosses, crowns, and ribbons, to whoever would give a good, simple, and intelligible definition of this term: the state.

What an immense service he would render to society!

The state! What is it? Where is it? What does it do? What should it do?

All that we know about it is that it is a mysterious personage, and certainly the most solicited, the most tormented, the busiest, the most advised, the most blamed, the most invoked, and the most provoked in the world.

For, sir, I do not have the honor of knowing you, but I wager ten to one that for six months you have been making utopias; and if you have been making them, I wager ten to one that you place upon the state the responsibility of realizing them.

And you, madame, I am sure that you desire from the bottom of your heart to cure all the ills of mankind, and that you would be in no wise embarrassed if the state would only lend a hand.
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D-day Commemoration

On a grey and showery day, skydivers at Weston on the Green commemorated D-day, not by skydiving, but by jumping static line at what for us is a low level: 3500ft. It makes you think.

D-day Commemoration – Dornier G92, originally uploaded by stevenjbaker.

Sport parachuting is relatively low risk, believe it or not. We go high with modern equipment: it works reliably and there is time to take the reserve if the main fails. No one is, or will be, shooting at you. But to be on a static line, lower, is a little unnerving.
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The Apostle of Free Trade: Richard Cobden

I just finished Gowing’s 1885 biography of Richard Cobden, whose doctrine was that free trade would lead to world peace through interdependence and mutual cooperation.

Cobden was a leader of the Anti-Corn-Law League — a substantial feat of political agitation — which was established to oppose protectionist measures on corn and decrease the price of basic food products. Cobden viewed the task of the League as “instructing the nation.” We learn in the biography:

Only seven years before the total repeal of the Corn Laws the men who agitated for the Repeal were looked upon, by many of the most experienced statesmen of the country, as wild and reckless theorists — as, in fact, little better than madmen!

Cobden’s life was remarkable. For example, after Repeal and losing his former seat, Rochdale returned him to Parliament without a contest and in his absence. Fortunes were twice raised by subscription to assist Cobden out of difficulties arising from the sacrifice of his own business in the national interest.

Today, we do indeed need more Cobdens in politics.


Update:

The EU announced on 17 Oct 2008 that it would restore import customs duties on cereals on 30 Jun 2009. There are quotas too.

The TARIC database allows you to query duty rates. For example:

  • Roasted coffee from Brazil: 7.50% (apparently less a “tariff preference” of 2.60%)
  • Long grain, rough rice (of a length/width ratio greater than 2 but less than 3) from Vietnam: 211.00 EUR per 1000kg with a “non-preferential tariff quota” of 15.00%

You will find the EU has made available a full-featured online system for navigating the maze of tariffs and regulations, but haven’t they missed the point? Is this free trade?

Classic Liberalism, by Lew Rockwell

Every four years, as the November presidential election draws near, I have the same daydream: that I don’t know or care who the president of the United States is. More importantly, I don’t need to know or care. I don’t have to vote or even pay attention to debates. I can ignore all campaign commercials. There are no high stakes for my family or my country. My liberty and property are so secure that, frankly, it doesn’t matter who wins. I don’t even need to know his name.

In my daydream, the president is mostly a figurehead and a symbol, almost invisible to myself and my community. He has no public wealth at his disposal. He administers no regulatory departments. He cannot tax us, send our children into foreign wars, pass out welfare to the rich or the poor, appoint judges to take away our rights of self government, control a central bank that inflates the money supply and brings on the business cycle, or change the laws willy-nilly according to the special interests he likes or seeks to punish.

The article is here.