MI5 chief Jonathan Evans defends ‘torture intelligence’ – Times Online

Via MI5 chief Jonathan Evans defends ‘torture intelligence’ – Times Online , we learn the MI5 chief’s position on complicity with torture:

The Director General of MI5 has issued a powerful defence of Britain’s co-operation with intelligence agencies in America and other countries accused of the abuse and torture of detainees, saying they had stopped “many attacks” in the aftermath of the September 11 strikes.

Speaking for the first time about charges of MI5 complicity in the abuse of suspects overseas, Jonathan Evans said Britain had had to get overseas help at the time of the strikes on New York’s World Trade Centre as its own knowledge of al Qaeda was inadequate and the terrorist network might have hit again “imminently”.

I am reminded of Pitt the Younger’s remarks in a 1783 speech to Parliament:

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

Mohammed Jawad: ‘I was 12 when I was arrested and sent to Guantanamo’ – Times Online

What a way to grow up:

When Mr Jawad was arrested, he was living with his mother in Kabul — his father having been killed fighting the Soviets in the 1980s.

“We searched for him for nine months,” said Mr Jalalkhil. “We didn’t know if he had been killed, or kidnapped, or got lost. His mother went crazy.” Finally, a member of the International Committee of the Red Cross visited their house to show them documents proving that Mr Jawad was in Guantánamo.

They were relieved at first to hear he was alive, but then they started to hear reports about conditions there.

Since returning, Mr Jawad has accused his captors of torturing prisoners, depriving them of food and sleep, and insulting Islam and the Koran.

He has described having his hands bound and stretched behind his back, and being forced to eat by bending over and putting his mouth into a plate of food.

via Mohammed Jawad: ‘I was 12 when I was arrested and sent to Guantanamo’ – Times Online .

London’s Metropolitan Police accused of waterboarding suspects – Times Online

While these are allegations, not facts, it is shocking that they can be seriously made in the UK:

Metropolitan Police officers subjected suspects to waterboarding, according to allegations at the centre of an anti-corruption inquiry.

The torture claims are part of an investigation which also includes accusations that evidence was fabricated and suspects’ property was stolen. It has already led to the abandonment of a drugs trial and the suspension from duty of several officers.

However, senior policing officials are most alarmed by the claim that officers in Enfield, North London, used the controversial CIA interrogation technique, in which water is poured on to a cloth covering the suspect’s face, causing them to feel they are on the point of suffocation.

via London’s Metropolitan Police accused of waterboarding suspects – Times Online .

Dominic Grieve QC MP on citizens and the state

The opening panel discussion at the Convention on Modern Liberty is now available online. Dominic Grieve speaks passionately and encouragingly from 3:55 on the finite limits on state power, social justice, quality of life and British collusion in torture:

A great speech from a great man.

Britain condoned torture, UN finds

Britain has been condemned in a highly critical United Nations report for breaching basic human rights and “trying to conceal illegal acts” in the fight against terrorism.

The report is sharply critical of British co-operation in the transfer of detainees to places where they are likely to be tortured as part of the US rendition programme.

The report accuses British intelligence officers of interviewing detainees held incommunicado in Pakistan in “so-called safe houses where they were being tortured”.

via Britain condoned torture, UN finds | World news | guardian.co.uk .

What a vile pass we have come to.

Terror suspects were tortured in Pakistan under UK policy

A policy governing the interrogation of terrorism suspects in Pakistan that led to British citizens and residents being tortured was devised by MI5 lawyers and figures in government, according to evidence heard in court.

A number of British terrorism suspects who have been detained without trial in Pakistan say they were tortured by Pakistani intelligence agents before being questioned by MI5. In some cases their accusations are supported by medical evidence.

via Terror suspects were tortured in Pakistan under UK policy | World news | guardian.co.uk .

BBC NEWS | Health | People still willing to torture

Decades after a notorious experiment, scientists have found test subjects are still willing to inflict pain on others – if told to by an authority figure.

US researchers repeated the famous “Milgram test”, with volunteers told to deliver electrical shocks to another volunteer – played by an actor.

Even after faked screams of pain, 70% were prepared to increase the voltage, the American Psychology study found.

via BBC NEWS | Health | People still willing to torture.